Journey to the West: Sun Wukong's Advice System-Chapter 265 - 251: Who Has Questions and Pioneering Martial Arts

Continue reading the responses below.

Stars and Moon of the Night Sky: "The Heavenly Punishment for the manifestation of the Human Race and the establishment of the Han Dynasty came not only late but also with such weak force. It was resolved by just Ao Lie and Liu Xiu. Is it possible that the Saints intervened to reduce its power?"

Subspace: "The Saints don’t have this ability. They themselves are Saints sealed by the Heavenly Dao, so how could they possibly stop Heavenly Punishment? I’m more inclined to believe it was Hong Jun, only Hong Jun, who is one with the Heavenly Dao, has this ability."

Forever a Salted Fish: "You’re taking the stance that Hong Jun is a good guy and that the Heavenly Dao is the villain.

If we swap their roles, it also makes sense to say that the Heavenly Dao has now realized that it’s been swayed by Hong Jun, leading the world to fall into disarray, and is therefore struggling against Hong Jun, who is one with the Heavenly Dao."

"Hmm..." Wukong scratched his face thoughtfully, feeling that he was becoming increasingly unclear about the position of the Dao Ancestor.

Because previously many netizens had portrayed the Dao Ancestor as a villain, and this time was no exception, as seen in the following responses.

Song of the Beacon Fire Shepherd: "Hong Jun is currently just a part of the Heavenly Dao. Perhaps he wishes to weaken the Vast Wilderness, but the subconscious will of the Heavenly Dao itself will definitely choose the outcome that’s good for itself."

Lover of the Great Tang’s Poetic Immortal Li Bai: "Hong Jun has been scheming to weaken the Earthly Path and the Human Path all along. During the Witch-Demon Calamity, he deprived the Earthly Path of the chance to recover, and during the Divine Enthronement, he denied the Human Path the opportunity to manifest.

With each Calamity, the Vast Wilderness continued to decline until it shattered into the Three Realms, allowing Hong Jun to unite with the Heavenly Dao and have the chance to consume the entire world of the Vast Wilderness.

The Heavenly Dao probably also realized that, knowing this old guy harbors ill intentions, so now there is resistance!"

Jiang Renhuang: "The simplest reasoning: the manifestation of the Human Path benefits the world, making it stronger, the Heavenly Dao will definitely not obstruct. From this, we can infer that something is wrong with Hong Jun."

Pangu’s Staff of Mount Buzhou: "Why is everyone bad-mouthing Hong Jun? No one ever mentions that Hong Jun once stopped the first great war between the Witches and the Demons, and he halted Tongtian from redoing earth, water, and fire, which could have changed the entire world."

Meow Meow Cannot Meow: "This isn’t bad-mouthing; it’s a fact. You’re talking about stopping the outbreak of the Witch-Demon war, which was because the Witch Clan was then too strong, with the Twelve Ancestral Witches able to suppress the ancient Demon Clan.

That obviously didn’t fit with Hong Jun’s goal of weakening the Vast Wilderness, so they couldn’t fight.

By the time of the second Witch-Demon war, Gong Gong and Zhu Rong from the Twelve Ancestral Witches had died, and Houtu had already transformed into the cycle of reincarnation, leaving only nine Ancestral Witches, unable to form the Heavenly Deity Slaughter Great Formation.

In the end, the two clans had a great battle with comparable strength, not only injuring both sides but also nearly extinguishing the powerful beings.

As a result, the Vast Wilderness was weakened, and Hong Jun took the opportunity to establish the Mysterious Gate Heavenly Court. Once the Human Race dominated the Vast Wilderness, he then arranged for the Divine Enthronement Calamity to weaken the Human Path.

As for stopping Tongtian from redoing earth, fire, water, and wind, of course, he had to stop it. If Tongtian flipped the table and changed the world, what Heavenly Dao could Hong Jun merge with?

From the outcome, we know he didn’t stop anything. After all, the Vast Wilderness shattered into the Three Realms, and this helped him succeed in unifying with the Dao."

"It seems reasonable." Wukong thought to himself.

There were many well-founded responses like this, which is why he couldn’t determine the Dao Ancestor’s position.

Previously, when the Qi dragon of the Human Race tried to dissolve the karmic fetters on Ao Lie and the Dragon Race, it suddenly affected the collective karma of the entire Dragon Race.

At that time, he agreed with these netizens’ thinking that the Dao Ancestor was a villain, unwilling to see the Dragon Race free from the karmic fetters and become a stronger ally to the Human Race.

But as some other netizens have suggested, it’s also possible that the Dao Ancestor was preventing the next Heavenly Punishments from descending.

Therefore, the two subsequent Heavenly Punishments for the Human Path, one very weak and one extremely powerful, have made him even more doubtful about the position of the Dao Ancestor, unable to understand what the Dao Ancestor truly intends to do.

"Guessing back and forth leads to no results, it would be better to ask the Dao Ancestor directly for clarity, but alas, there is no opportunity." Wukong scratched his hands in frustration at the situation.

Looking at some of the responses below, they seem even more reasonable.

Subspace: "I still lean toward Hong Jun not being the ultimate villain. Following the topic starter’s simulation, after Hong Jun eliminated Luo Hou, the Luo Tian Seal he set up was based on the three paths of heaven, earth, and man, and the stronger the three paths, the stronger the seal.

If Wukong had not changed any of this, and everything had progressed along the original timeline, the imbalance among the three paths would have only worsened, and the seal would have eventually been breached, which is clearly disadvantageous for Hong Jun.

One can imagine that once Luo Hou re-enters the Three Realms, his target would definitely be Hong Jun, so Hong Jun would definitely want to see the Earthly Path and Human Path strengthened.

Unfortunately, after merging with the Heavenly Dao, Hong Jun cannot act at will, only able to push things along from behind.

I even think that after Wukong stepped out of his original life trajectory, his successful development might also involve Hong Jun’s scheming from behind."

The Last Warrior: "Based on that, does it mean the Heavenly Dao has its own desires? That’s why the Vast Wilderness has one Calamity after another. Hong Jun, in a self-sacrificing righteous move, chose to merge with the Heavenly Dao to prevent all this."

Captain Nemo: "That’s how I see it too. Perhaps the Heavenly Dao developed its own consciousness and, acting on choices beneficial to itself, continuously suppressed the Earthly and Human Paths and even incorporated them into its own system,

so in the end, the plan is for the Heavenly Dao to replace the Great Path. As long as it succeeds, whether or not the seal of the Luo Tian Demonic Realm breaks doesn’t matter to the Heavenly Dao,

but this wouldn’t be acceptable to all other beings, except for Yuan Shi who wholeheartedly expounds the Heavenly Dao."